NOT FOR SALE - тема исключение

[Moscow 333]

Сообщение от 7.BeL@Rus-Beckham7.

Я за МЮ такой какой он есть какой он был и какой будет !!! И мне пофиг кто или что им будет упровлять . Хоть Бен Ладен , лишь бы он не трогал святое и не мешал.

а разве сегодня еще не среда? 8)

[7.BeL@Rus-Beckham7.]

Ладно , пока!!! Надеюсь к моему приезду у НФС появяться более здравые мысли и доводы . А это эу чушь даже и читать не хочецца...

[Dragonfly]

Тут была тема где один юзер писал что мы проиграли войну с Глейзерами. Я нашла одну цитату. Хочу адресовать ее всем тем фанатам "МЮ", которые считают, что война с семейством Глейзеров проиграна. Что мы уже ничего не сможем поделать с ними:
"Невозможное – это всего лишь громкое слово, за которым прячутся маленькие люди. Им проще жить в привычном мире, чем найти в себе силы его изменить. Невозможное – это не факт. Это только мнение. Невозможное – это не приговор. Это вызов. Невозможное – это шанс проверить себя. Невозможное – это не навсегда. Невозможное – возможно".

[FaN_MU]

НФС перешли на философию? 8)

[Shtucer]

Сообщение от Dragonfly

"Невозможное – это всего лишь громкое слово, за которым прячутся маленькие люди. Им проще жить в привычном мире, чем найти в себе силы его изменить. Невозможное – это не факт. Это только мнение. Невозможное – это не приговор. Это вызов. Невозможное – это шанс проверить себя. Невозможное – это не навсегда. Невозможное – возможно". ADIDAS

Но я полностью согласен с этим

[Moscow 333]

получился каламбур такой: эти слова говорят в рекламе адидаса, лицом которой является бекс, который высказался в поддержку глейзера

[Moscow 333]

форма ФК Юнайтед:
http://www.livejournal.com/community...5.html?#cutid1

[Dragonfly]

ДА, это слова из адидас. но эти слова очень хорошо подходят для нашей ситуации. И мне начхать что Бекс за Глейзера. Мы же все против.

[Moscow 333]

последние новости:

what's happening?

Here's what's happening:

- IMUSA and the fanzines have today publicly called for a boycott of the CL game in August - it is an individual choice whether you participate in this, but I certainly will (well I don't have a ST any more so it's easy)

- we will be relaunching SU as a mutual society, 'The Manchester United Supporters Trust', by the end of the month - logos are now being designed for this and for Phoenix

- we are still in the throes of liquidating SUSS, which has been painful in the extreme - cheques to those who cashed out will be processed by the end of the month and new share certificates should be on their way from the registrars to those who requested transfers

- we are in discussion with a number of financial institutions about the legal, regulatory, financial, structural and IT issues relating to the setting up of the Phoenix Fund - an announcement will be made as soon as we are in a position to do so

- we are in the process of changing our organisation from a mainly anti-takeover campaigning group on the inside of the fight against takeover to a structured, professional and commercial entity on the outside, positioning ourselves for a 3-year long campaign to be there when our club comes back on the market - of course we will take hits and it ain't going to be an easy transition

- we have a 5 page draft strategy document about to 'go live' covering such issues as organisational strategy, funding, commercial (sponsorship and revenue-raising deals), branding/merchandising, communications/media, recruitment, advertising - that's in addition to the direct action, branch programme, volunteer database, and other critical matters which need to be dealt with yesterday

We need people to contribute and get/stay involved, and we will be coming to you all for that - those who are committed to the cause and see this as a long-term war not those who lose heart at the first sign of difficulty. We aren't going to win this in the first few months, it will take years with apparent setbacks and loads of apathy. MU will try to paint us as the small minority, the enemy (they already are doing that). And many fans will walk away from the fight for one reason or another. But be sure that we have to get it right from the start because if we stay United, Glazer will push wavering United fans back into our arms as the seasons roll by with price increases and loopy decisions across the board year-on-year.

Be patient. I know we all tend to get disheartened when we lose a battle and see no obvious action plan, but you know it is easy to sit in an armchair and complain when nothing appears to be happening. Things are happening, bigtime, but SU is a bit like a supertanker which takes a mile or several to change direction.

The beginning of the season proper will see MUST as a broad-based and dynamic organisation, offering a real long-term alternative to the nightmare that is Glazer. This will be a long and bumpy ride - make sure you're strapped in and ready.

[Moscow 333]

грустно все это

from the Guardian

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_...526100,00.html

'We asked Tampa Tribune columnist Daniel Ruth what Manchester United supporters can expect now that American tycoon and Tampa Bay Buccaneers owner Malcolm Glazer owns their team. This is what he wrote... '

'Here's what you poor, poor, sad, slap happy fulminating patrons of the Manchester United soccer team have to understand about the franchise's new proprietor, Palm Beach tycoon Malcolm Glazer and his lads.
You can threaten to boycott games. Yawn.
You can demonstrate in the streets. Sigh.
You can burn all the effigies you want. Oh dear.
You can protest, whine, pout, shout and hold your breath. Isn't that precious?
You can curl up in the mother of all foetal positions and primal scream yourself blue. How nice for you.

And Malcolm Glazer and his rug rats still won't care one whit, not an iota, not so much as a passing moment of concern. Indeed, if the elder Glazer owns ManU for the next 20 years he will probably set foot in the old sod about as often as the Argentine Army Falklands War Veterans Association. That's because - altogether now - HE DOESN'T CARE!
There is a story former Tampa Mayor Dick Greco often tells about attending a Tampa Bay Buccaneers football game shortly after Glazer bought the team for $190m in 1995. At one point, as a defensive back intercepted a pass and raced into the end zone for a touchdown, Glazer jumped to his feet to cheer on the player only to be gently reminded by Greco that the new owner of the Tampa Bay Bucs was actually rooting for the wrong team. The Bucs are now worth, according to Forbes Magazine, $779m, so apparently not knowing the difference between a blitz and a blintz hardly seems to have been a particular impediment to Malcolm Glazer. To be sure, many ManU fans are wound more tightly than Princess Anne in trying to fathom what the future may hold during the Glazer years.

In a sense, Glazer's confusion over which team to root for is understandable. That's largely because you need to think of the National Football League as a sort of mother of all capitalist communes. The value of the Bucs franchise is grounded in a number of generous sweetheart deals. First, the NFL believes in all for one and one for all, equally distributing the league's profits to all 32 teams regardless of performance. And thus, all 32 franchises including the Bucs receive $100m from the NFL before the first down of the first play of the first game of the season commences.

In addition, the Bucs play their games in a $162m stadium, for which the Glazers put up not one thin dime of their own money to build. This is a source of some community discontent, since Malcolm Glazer promised to pay for half of the stadium back in 1995, only to eventually renege on the deal. As well, the Bucs receive about $23m-a-year in luxury suite, concession and parking revenue at the stadium.

Then there's the stadium name. Raymond James Financial Corp. inked a 13-year, $35m deal for the naming rights. And that is how a team which sports a 12-20 (won 12, lost 20) record over the past two years is still worth almost a billion dollars. It also might explain why the Glazers can be so indifferent to the team's fans. After all, when you are already turning a profit before the first paying customer sits down in their $59 seat, you can, as the Glazers did five years ago, sue a group of fans for defamation.

The disgruntled supporters sued the team when the Bucs moved from the old 73,000-seat Tampa Stadium to the new Raymond James community stadium, with 10,000 fewer general admission seats for the "community" to sit in. Feeling this was somehow unfair, the fans got their lawyers involved and sued. Eventually the suits were settled out of court, but not before attorneys on opposing sides started throwing coffee at one another.

If the family's stewardship of an NFL franchise is any remote guide, you should know these folks tend to regard fans with about the same enthusiasm as a widget. Shortly after the Glazers took over, the Bucs discontinued any relationship it had with the many ad hoc fan clubs through the Tampa Bay area, refusing to provide players for speaking engagements and the like. Today the Bucs fan clubs are organised internally by the team. What fun.

If you are wondering if the Glazers will shell out money for top-notch players and personnel, the answer is yes. Will they be any good? Who knows? In one of the few instances when sons Joel and Bryan were given their heads to make a management decision pretty much on their own, the boys hired head coach Jon Gruden, who is known to spend long, long hours perfecting losing game plans.

As for the future of ManU, don't think for a minute that if the Glazers could figure out a way to sell the naming rights to Old Trafford to... well, France for the right price without causing an international incident, they would do the deal in a heartbeat. After all, these are business people first and foremost. Still, Manchester United fans are going to have to get used to the family owning "their" team. They are not going anywhere and they are not particularly interested in explaining themselves to you.

Over the 10 years of Bucs ownership, Malcolm Glazer has had less to say publicly than the Unabomber. Gracious, by comparison the Glazers make the head of MI6 look like a tabloid gossip monger. So let the games begin and watch your wallets. Oh and one more thing: (Memo to Malcolm Glazer and his tots) The nickname for Manchester United is "The Red Devils". There must be a hint in there somewhere to avoid confusing teams - on the off chance you even care.'