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Старый 18.05.2005, 22:42   #11
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это лучшая статья, которую я прочитал начиная с прошлого черного четверга. великолепная статья. очень мудрая. искренне рекомендую почитать.

http://www.redissue.co.uk/news/loadn...TMNW&id=222560

A public meeting will take place at the Methodist Hall in Oldham Street in Manchester tomorrow night. Manchester United supporters will make a pilgrimage there to grieve over the corpse of their club.

Some of them, in the great non-conformist traditions of the old venue opposite Affleck's Palace, will agitate for protest. They will argue they can hold on to their season tickets, keep going to Old Trafford and try to destabilise the new regime of Malcolm Glazer from the inside.

Others will say that is pointless self-delusion and that all attempts at dissent will be stamped out. Smiley's one of those. He wrote a brutally honest piece in the Red Issue fanzine last week pointing out the futility of action from within.

"Remember," he said, "Old Trafford was like watching football in a police state when it was a simple PLC regime. It's soon to be a dictatorship."

Others will stick to their mantra of No Customers, No Profits. They're the fans who say Saturday's FA Cup Final will be their last match as a United fan.

However much it hurts them, they are going to end their years of allegiance to England's most famous club. Some of them want to build a new club from the ground up. They have already had discussions with the founders of AFC Wimbledon.

They have been given indications they might be able to start at Unibond League level. There are tentative plans to adopt The Willows, Salford's rugby league ground, as their home.

Some have already dismissed them as hopeless romantics. Some have scorned them as shallow attention-seekers who will crumble when they don't get their way. But I think all the United fans who stream into the Methodist Hall after work tomorrow deserve our backing.

I admire their militancy, for a start. I admire their refusal to roll over and just accept that might is right. I admire them for having some principles. I admire them for caring enough about what happens to their club to try to do something about it.

Because the Glazer takeover of Manchester United is about far more than the health of our biggest club. It's about taking another giant step to rip our national game away from its traditional supporter base.

"What a lot of the media don't seem able to grasp is that we are not protesting about Glazer just because we are worried about our club," Jules Spencer, the chair of the Independent Manchester United Supporters Association, told me yesterday.

"We are not believers in Manchester United at all costs. Much as I revelled in Leeds going down at the end of last season, deep down I was thinking that was two fixtures a season I was really going to miss and that probably weren't going to be back for a long time.

"I don't want to see a man come in and break up the revenue-sharing agreements that are in place because he is so desperate to make more money to service his massive debts.

"I don't want Bury and Rochdale and Stockport to be pushed over the edge of the chasm they're already teetering on because of another man's greed. I don't want a situation where no working-class people and no youngsters can come to games because of the price and because everything is going to be slanted even more to the corporates.

"Sooner or later there's going to be a backlash against the way football in our country is going and Glazer is just going to accelerate that. I want United to grow and prosper but not at any cost."

And you know what? I agree with him. Absolutely 100 per cent.

I don't want the bad old days of crumbling stadiums back but I'm tired of people like me sitting back in our cynicism and our resignation and doing nothing while the atmosphere in our stadia dies and football continues to disenfranchise its traditional base.

Something important is happening here. Something worth fighting for. Something bigger than Manchester United. So all power to the fans who walk into the Methodist Hall tomorrow night. All power to them for standing up and speaking out. It's just a shame there aren't more like them.
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Старый 19.05.2005, 15:08   #12
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http://campaign.shareholdersunited.o...kets/index.php

Открыт сайт, на котором отмечаются люди, которые не будут продлевать свои сезонные абонементы и/или One United

к сожалению, там нигде не указано итоговое количество человек, но видно сразу, что их очень много
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Старый 19.05.2005, 18:54   #13
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и снова форум Red News:

Surley the aim of Utd fans owning Utd is what everyone should have wanted. But, in reality, those who haven't, only see a team playing and a result is all that matters.

http://rnforum.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=63650#63650
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Старый 19.05.2005, 21:06   #14
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на случай, если вдруг кто-то забыл: Оле Гуннар Сульшер - патрон SU и он гордится этим.

"I am honoured. I think it is important that the club remains in the right hands. I am absolutely on the supporters’ side and think the club is in very good hands as it is today. I am a United fan myself and only want what is best for the future."

все патроны SU: http://www.shareholdersunited.org/patrons.php
Среди них: Грэранд, Басби, Крегг, Морган, Степни, Бойли, ...
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Старый 20.05.2005, 13:54   #15
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как вы все знаете, вчера в Манчестере состоялось собрание коалиции "Not for sale". в результате собрания появилось следующее заявление, перевод 1-2 дня. если есть желающие мне помочь с переводами - пишите moscow333@manutd.ru

[1] Not For Sale Statement
Friday, May 20, 2005

We'll Never Die!
Fight Glazer's Occupation
of Manchester United

The Independent Manchester United Supporters Association, Shareholders United and the fanzines Red Issue, Red News and United We Stand - who together represent tens of thousands of Manchester United fans - remain implacably opposed to the purchase of Manchester United Plc by the Malcolm Glazer family.

We regard the Glazer family as in temporary occupation of Old Trafford. We are calling on all Manchester United fans to continue the fight against Glazer and to unseat him from Old Trafford. Reclaim the club!

We have all been angry at the purchase of our club as if it were a mere commodity; we are angry at what he is going to do to the club in order to repay his colossal debts; we are angry at the exclusion of supporters interests. But anger is not enough, now is the time for action.

Glazer's business plan is based on a knife edge. It's time for us to show that the customer is king.

Below are a list of things that you can do to get Glazer out of our club. Keep Up the Fight! Here's TEN THINGS YOU CAN DO
1. Protest at the FA Cup Final

We are calling on all United fans to dress in black at the FA Cup Final, to mark the passing of Manchester United into the Glazer regime, to bring black banners and to leave nobody in any doubt about how we feel. We are fighting for the history and tradition of our club: this is a symbolic, peaceful protest which also respects the history and tradition of a competition which United are the record holders. Go to the Prince of Wales pub in Cardiff from 11.30 am on the day of the match.

2. Build for a Public Rally
It is intended to hold an public rally at the Apollo Theatre in Manchester. We need you to build for this by getting as many United fans you know to come. Help build the rally by leafleting at the Cup final on Saturday.

Collect leaflets from the Prince of Wales pub in Cardiff from 11.30am.

3. Use Your Customer Power on Glazer
**Don't buy Club Merchandise

Stop the money going to Glazer. Boycott all products from the club. This includes catering on match day, merchandise from the club shop and replica shirts and strips. Give back your Manchester United credit card and anything else from which Glazer will profit. Encourage other fans not to buy club product. Write to Manchester United Merchandising, Manchester United, Old Trafford, Manchester M16 0RA to tell them why you are boycotting their product.

**Cancel MUTV Subscriptions
Stop the money going to Glazer. Many fans have already cancelled their MUTV subscriptions. You can do the same! Ring MUTV to cancel your subscription immediately and inform them why.

**Boycott the Club's Sponsors
Make Glazer as unpopular as possible with the club's official sponsors and minimise Glazer's income from their association. Many fans have already cancelled Vodafone subscriptions and are vowing not to buy Nike products.

Boycott all products and services from the following companies and write to let them know why you are doing so:

VODAFONE Mr Arun Sarin, Chief Executive, Vodafone Group PLC, Vodafone House, The Connection, Newbury, Berkshire RG14 2FN
NIKE, Mr Dan Loeb, General Manager, Nike (UK) Ltd, 1 Victory Way, Doxford Intl Business Park, Sunderland SR3 3XF
AUDI UK, Mr Kevin Rose, Managing Director, Audi UK, Yeomans Drive, Blakelands, Milton Keynes MK14 5AN
BUDWEISER Budweiser Consumer Department, Anheuser-Busch Europe Ltd, Freepost LON7267, Richmond TW9 2BR
CENTURY RADIO, Mr David Mansfield, Chief Executive, GCap Media PLC, 30 Leicester Square, London WC2H 7LA
FUJIFILM (UK), Mr Hiroshi Saigusa, Managing Director, Fujifilm UK, Fujifilm House, 125 Finchley Road London, NW3 6HY LADBROKES Mr David Michels, Chief Executive, Hilton Group plc, Maple Court, Central Park, Reeds Crescent, Watford, Herts WD24 4QQ
PEPSI UK Mr Richard Collins, Director of Brand Marketing, Britvic House, Broomfield Road, Chelmsford CM1 1TU SCHICK-WILKINSON SWORD Customer Relations, Sword House, Totteridge Road, High Wycombe, Bucks HP13 6EJ

4. Boycotting Matches

Many fans have already decided that they cannot renew their season tickets and give their money to Glazer, so they are boycotting matches. This is the most direct way of stopping Glazer getting his hands on our cash and stopping him succeeding. Others feel that they cannot stop going to the game, but have vowed to carry the fight on 'within'. We support the personal decisions of all fans who remain actively campaigning against Glazer.

5. Use Your Shareholder Power
If you're a private shareholder, your shares do count. Do nothing until you here from Shareholders United. SU will be contacting you with further plans about what to do with your shares in the coming days.
Contact Shareholders United at http://www.sharehodlersuntied.org
www.sharehodlersuntied.org or 0870 742 3025.

For those who have made the ultimate sacrifice please add your name to the list of fans giving up ST, LMTB and OU Membership at www.mufcrollofhonour.com

6. Call on Gill and the Boards to Resign

We want no cooperation with Glazer and call on leading staff not to become part of his machine.

We call on Chief Executive David Gill, the board of Manchester United Plc and the board of Manchester United Football Club to lead by example and to resign in protest at the take-over. We request that they do this at the earliest opportunity, as we do not see how in all honour they can continue to execute a business plan that they themselves describe as 'aggressive' and 'damaging'.

Write to them and urge them to resign:
David Gill, Manchester United, Old Trafford, Manchester M16 0RA.

7. Make Glazer and His Backers Aware of Your Anger
We intend to make the Glazer project unworkable and you can help.

**Extraordinary General Meeting

In order for Glazer to make Manchester United a private company, he has to hold an Extraordinary General Meeting of all shareholders. We can protest at the EGM and, if too many of the 30,000+ small shareholders turn up, the meeting may have to be adjourned. If this happens again, it may have to be adjourned again. The longer the club remains out of his private hands, the more difficult it becomes for Glazer.

Look out for the announcement of the EGM and turn up when it happens.

**Legal Challenge

Shareholders United are looking into a legal challenge to the take over in which any 50 (or more) shareholders can challenge Glazerнs attempts to take the club private.
For more information about how you can get involved, contact Shareholders United.

**Phones, Fax and Email

It would be most unfortunate for the smooth running of the Glazer regime if fans were to to contact the club, all at the same time. As such we are calling on fans to be careful:
Not to call phone lines and fax machines at the same time
Not to send emails
Not to order large numbers of unwanted products
Not to telephone key staff so that they cannot help Glazer
We would also like to remind fans that under the Data Protection Act that they can demand from the club any information which is held on them within 28 days of a request.
Write to the Chief Executive, Manchester United, Old Trafford, Manchester, M16 0RA to request a copy of all the data they hold on you.

8. Write in Protest

The take-over of an historic Manchester institution by an American corporate raider has been allowed to happen because of a lack of proper regulation on who is allowed to own football clubs in this country. English regulations are far weaker than stronger leagues such as Spain and Germany where supporters have a controlling interest to protect the club. The Glazer take over now threatens the very fabric of English football.
Write to express your anger at the take-over and call for the regulatory bodies to act against it:
Premier League: Richard Scudamore, Chief Executive, FAPL, 12 Connaught Place, London W2 2ET
FA: Brian Barwick, Chair, The FA, 20 Soho Square, London W1D 4FA
Prime Minister, Tony Blair, 10 Downing St, London SW1A 2AA
Sports Minister: Richard Caborn, Minister for Sport, DCMS, 2-4 Cockspur St, London SW1Y 5DH
Your MP, c/o House of Commons, Westminster, London SW1A 0AA

9. Challenge the Media

Some in the media are saying that the protest is over and that Glazer's take-over is complete. We need to keep reiterating our opposition to it and to make sure the media are aware of the scope of actions which we will be undertaking under the next few months. Glazerнs people will also be spinning against us. ANYTIME you hear the media mis-representing the campaign against Glazerнs company, or assumptions that there is nothing fans can do, phone, write, text and email and tell everyone what is going on. Also, support those in the press who are backing us.

10. Contact and Join Us:
http://www.imusa.org
http://www.shareholders.org
http://www.redissue.co.uk
http://www.rednews.co.uk
http://www.uws.co.uk

честно говоря, я о чень рад. что пока речь не идет о создании FC United. тяжелая это история. очень тяжелая ...
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Старый 20.05.2005, 16:41   #16
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официальное заявление Vodafone

MANCHESTER UNITED: MEDIA RESPONSE
Vodafone has an excellent long-term relationship with Manchester United. The success of this strategic partnership has enabled Vodafone to build brand awareness in the UK and globally. We look forward to discussing the future development of the relationship with the club over the coming weeks and months. We have no further comment to make.

Nike официально говорил то же самое. Один в один. Что ж, жизнь покажет.
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Старый 20.05.2005, 18:14   #17
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[43] Danish Shareholders United member Casper Heiselberg
Friday, May 20, 2005

"Following Malcolm Glazer's takeover of Manchester United, the Danish supporters of this great club would like to show our feelings about the matter. Therefore we will on Saturday hold a protest march through the capital of Denmark, Copenhagen, to show our sympathy with the city of Manchester and the football world in general, which has lost one of the greatest clubs ever.

"We expect plenty of Danish reds to show up, and have received confirmation from Sweden about a Swedish delegation, that will attend the march too. The Mancunians are not alone on this matter. We do not want this American in our club and we certainly do not want him to bring our club into debt."

"We do not believe that his intentions are good for the club, the history or the supporters of this great club. He might have bought the PLC, but he will never buy the pride, the history or the dignity of Manchester United Football Club.

"United is not for sale! We would like to encourage every Manchester United-supporter to step up their fight against Glazer. Join Shareholders United. Alone you can do nothing. Together we can be United and save United."

нам слабо. очень жаль. очень очень жаль.
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Старый 23.05.2005, 16:39   #18
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суббота была черным днем во всех смыслах. и бога ради, перестаньте же думать, что если вам по телику чего-то не показали, а комментатор дальше своего носа ничего не видит, то этого не было на самом деле.

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Старый 23.05.2005, 20:16   #19
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132 человека (см. опрос на морде сайта) считают, что Манчестер Юнайтед в старом его обличии, умер. RIP MUFC. что принесет нам новый Манчестер Юнайтед и кем он будет - покажет время.
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Старый 23.05.2005, 20:35   #20
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антиглейзеровская демонстрация в Дании:

http://www.protest.man-utd.dk/protest/
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